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Presiding Bishop duped into Satanic investigation!

08/01/2004 - by Memo Mike

Presented for your review, a confidential memo, direct from the COB, showing that Bishop Glenn L. Pace, at that time in the Presiding Bishopric, admitting that there was credibility to the reports that church members were experiencing flashbacks to satanic abuse when they went though the temple....just one problem: to make a long story short, he was duped. It didn't happen that way. The underlying question here is what happened to the man's "gift of discernment"?

This story got national media attention, and drew negative attention towards the church. It appears that in this particular case, things got blew out of proportion, but it is amusing to read this man's panic-filled memo, when he doesn't realize he's been made an idiot of:


Date: July 19, 1990

To: Strengthening Church Members Committee

From: Bishop Glenn L. Pace

Subject: Ritualistic Child Abuse

Pursuant to the Committee's request, I am writing this memorandum to pass along what I have learned about ritualistic child abuse. Hopefully, it will be of some value to you as you continue to monitor the problem. You have already received the LDS Social Services report on satanism dated May 24, 1989, a report from Brent Ward, and a memorandum from myself dated October 20, 1989 in response to Brother Ward's report. Therefore, I will limit this writing to information not contained in those papers.

I have met with sixty victims. That number could be twice or three times as many if I did not discipline myself to only one meeting per week. I have not wanted my involvement with this issue to become a handicap in fulfilling my assigned responsibilities. On the other hand, I felt someone needed to pay the price to obtain an intellectual and spiritual conviction as to the seriousness of this problem within the Church.

Of the sixty victims with whom I have met, fifty-three are female and seven are male. Eight are children. The abuse occurred in the following places: Utah (37), Idaho (3), California (4), Mexico (2), and other places (14). Fifty-three victims are currently living in the State of Utah. All sixty individuals are members of the Church. Forty-five victims allege witnessing and/or participating in human sacrifice. The majority were abused by relatives, often their parents. All have developed psychological problems and most have been diagnosed as having multiple personality disorder or some other form of dissociative disorder.

Ritualistic child abuse is the most hideous of all child abuse. The basic objective is premeditated--to systematically and methodically torture and terrorize children until they are forced to dissociate. The torture is not a consequence of the loss of temper, but the execution of well-planned, well-thought out rituals often performed by close relatives. The only escape for the children is to dissociate. They will develop a new personality to enable them to endure various forms of abuse. When the episode is over, the core personality is again in control and the individual is not conscious of what happened. Dissociation also serves the purposes of the occult because the children have no day-to-day memory of the atrocities. They go through adolescence and early adulthood with no active memory of what is taking place. Oftentimes they continue in rituals through their teens and early twenties, unaware of their involvement. Many individuals with whom I have spoken have served missions and it has not been until later that they begin to remember. One individual has memories of participating in rituals while serving as a full-time missionary.

The victims lead relatively normal lives, but the memories are locked up in a compartment in their minds and surface in various ways. They don't know how to cope with the emotions because they can't find the source. As they become adults and move into another environment, something triggers the memories and, consequently, flashbacks and/or nightmares occur. One day they will have been living a normal life and the next they will be in a mental hospital in a fetal position. The memories of their early childhood are recalled in so much detail that they once again feel the pain that caused the dissociation in the first place.

There are two reasons why adults can remember with such detail events that happened in their past: First, the terror they experienced was so stark that it was indelibly placed in their mind. Second, the memory was compartmentalized in a certain portion of the mind and was not subjected to the dilution of experiences of ensuing years. When it is tapped, it is as fresh as if it happened yesterday.

The memories seem to come in layers. For example, the first memory might be of incest; then they remember robes and candles; next they realize that their father or mother or both were present when they were being abused. Another layer will be the memory of seeing other people hurt and even killed. Then they remember having seen babies killed. Another layer is realizing that they participated in the sacrifices. One of the most painful memories may be that they even sacrificed their own baby. With each layer of memory comes another set of problems with which they must deal.

Some have said that the witnesses to this type of treatment cannot be trusted because of the victim's unstable condition and because practically all of them have some kind of dissociative disorder; in fact, the stories are so bizarre as to raise serious credibility questions. The irony is that one of the objectives of the occult is to create multiple personalities within the children in order to keep the "secrets." They live in society without society having any idea that something is wrong since the children and teenagers don't even realize there is another life occurring in darkness and in secret. However, when sixty witnesses testify to the same type of torture and murder, it becomes impossible for me, personally, not to believe them.

I mention multiple personalities because the spiritual healing which must take place in the lives of these victims cannot happen without their priesthood leaders understanding something about it.

The spiritual indoctrination which takes place during the physical abuse is one of the most difficult to overcome. In addition to experiencing stark terror and pain, the children are also instructed in satanic doctrine. Everything is completely reversed: white is black, black is white, good is bad, bad is good, Satan is going to rule during the Millennium.

Children are put in a situation where they believe they are going to die--such as being buried alive or being placed in a plastic bag and immersed in water. Prior to doing so, the abuser tells the child to pray to Jesus to see if He will save her. Imagine a seven year old girl, having been told she is going to die, praying to Jesus to save her and nothing happens--then at the last moment she is rescued, but the person saving her is a representative of Satan. He uses this experience to convince her that the only person who really cares about her is Satan, she is Satan's child and she might as well become loyal to him.

Just before or shortly after their baptism into the Church, children are baptized by blood into the satanic order which is meant to cancel out their baptism into the Church. They will be asked if they understand or have ever felt the Holy Ghost. When they reply that they have, they will be reminded of the horrible things they have participated in and will be told that they have become a son (or daughter) of perdition and, therefore, have no chance of being saved or loved by our Father in heaven or Jesus.

All of this indoctrination takes place with whichever personality has immerged to endure the physical, mental, and spiritual pain. Consequently, there develops within each of these individuals the makings of what I call a civil war. As the memories begin to surface, there are personalities who feel they have given themselves to Satan, and there is no hope for forgiveness. The core person is an active member of the Church, often with a temple recommend. As integration takes place, the civil war begins. Sometimes, in an interview, personalities of the dark side have come out. They are petrified or perhaps full of hate for me and what I represent. Eventually those personalities need to be dealt with spiritually and psychologically.

Most victims are suicidal. They have been brainwashed with drugs, hypnosis, and other means to become suicidal as soon as they start to tell the secrets. They have been threatened all of their lives that if they don't do what they are told their brother or sister will die, their parents will die, their house will be burned, or they themselves will be killed. They have every reason to believe it since they have seen people killed. They believe they might as well kill themselves instead of wait for the occult to do it. Some personalities feel it is the right thing to do.

The purpose of this detail is to stress the complexity of psychological and spiritual therapy for these individuals. Our priesthood leaders, when faced with such cases, are understandably at a loss of how to respond. Orthodox counsel is completely ineffective. For example, some victims have been told that this all happened in their past and that they should put it behind them and get on with their lives. This is just not possible. Part of the spiritual therapy necessary is for priesthood leaders to assist with the conversion process of the personalities who have been indoctrinated into satanism. Victims must integrate their personalities so that they can function as whole persons and be able to deal with their problems and then get on with their lives. Often, some of the parts will begin to act out--perhaps promiscuously--and a good intentioned priesthood leader, following the General Handbook of Instructions, will disfellowship or excommunicate an individual. All this does is reinforce the satanic indoctrination of the victims that they are no good.

I'm sorry to say that many of the victims have had their first flashbacks while attending the temple for the first time. The occult along the Wasatch Front uses the doctrine of the Church to their advantage. For example, the verbiage and gestures are used in a ritualistic ceremony in a very debased and often bloody manner. When the victim goes to the temple and hears the ex act words, horrible memories are triggered. We have recently been disturbed with members of the Church who have talked about the temple ceremony. Compared to what is happening in the occult along the Wasatch Front, these are very minor infractions. The perpetrators are also living a dual life. Many are temple recommend holders. This leads to another reason why the Church needs to consider the seriousness of these problems. In affect, the Church is being used.

I go out of my way to not let the victims give me the names of the perpetrators. I have told them that my responsibility is to help them with spiritual healing and that the names of perpetrators should be given to therapists and law enforcement officers. However, they have told me the positions in the Church of members who are perpetrators. Among others, there are Young Women leaders, Young Men leaders, bishops, a patriarch, a stake president, temple workers, and members of the Tabernacle Choir. These accusations are not coming from individuals who think they recognized someone, but from those who have been abused by people they know, in many cases their own family members.

Whatever the form of abuse our main concern is for the victims, but there are legal ramifications. We are disturbed to receive reports that a scoutmaster has abused the boys in his troop. It is not difficult to imagine what would happen if we learn that a bishop or stake president has participated in the abominations of ritualistic child abuse. Not only do some of the perpetrators represent a cross section of the Mormon culture, but sometimes the abuse has taken place in our own meetinghouses.

I don't pretend to know how prevalent the problem is. All I know is that I have met with 60 victims. Assuming each one comes from a coven of 13, we are talking about the involvement of 800 or so right here on the Wasatch Front. Obviously, I have only seen those coming forth to get help. They are in their twenties and thirties for the most part. I can only assume that it is expanding geometrically and am horrified the numbers represented by the generation who are now children and teenagers.

Another reason for concern is that there are several doctrinal issues that need to be resolved. The Church and society in general are very skeptical as to whether the occult and its activities do exist. There is no First Presidency statement relative to some of the doctrinal issues: What does a priesthood leader tell individuals who come forward and say that they have participated in these rituals--which may include human sacrifice? Should they have a temple recommend? Will they ever be forgiven? There are questions regarding free agency and accountability. Is a person who has been raised in an occult from infancy accountable for things that take place in a dissociated state, even though those acts were committed after the age of eight? I have formed my own opinions to these questions and have done the best I can. However, I don't have the mantle to make these doctrinal and policy decisions. I have relied on the mantle of a bishop regarding discernment and being a common judge.

The few priesthood leaders who have had to face these issues are crying out for help because they don't want to give their own opinions and yet there is no place to go for an answer. A bishop will go to his stake president who says he doesn't believe it is happening and that the member is just crazy. The stake president might go to an Area Presidency who will react in a similar way. Most people are afraid to surface it to the First Presidency for fear of getting the same reaction and don't want to appear crazy themselves for asking the question.

I hope you will excuse me if I am being presumptuous, but I am concluding this paper with scriptures I feel support my belief that these activities are real and cannot be ignored.

The things I have been writing about go back to Cain and Abel:

And Satan said unto Cain: Swear unto me by thy throat, and if thou tell it thou shalt die; and swear thy brethren by their heads, and by the living God, that they tell it not; for if they tell it, they shall surely die; and this that thy father may not know it; and this day I will deliver thy brother Abel into thine hands.

And Satan sware unto Cain that he would do according to his commands. And all these things were done in secret.

And Cain said: Truly I am Mahan, the master of this great secret, that I may murder and get gain. Wherefore Cain was called Master Mahan, and he gloried in his wickedness. (Moses 5:29-31.)

All of the experiences I have heard about have to do with secrecy, swearing not to tell, murdering to get gain and power:

Wherefore Lamech, being angry, slew him, not like unto Cain, his brother Abel, for the sake of getting gain, but he slew him for the oath's sake.

For, from the days of Cain, there was a secret combination, and their works were in the dark, and they knew every man his brother. (Moses 5:50-51.)

And then in Moses 6:15 we learn that as people began to fill the earth, so did these secret works:

And the children of men were numerous upon all the face of the land. And in those days Satan had great dominion among men, and raged in their hearts; and from thenceforth came wars and bloodshed; and a man's hand was against his own brother, in administering death, because of secret works, seeking for power.

The Book of Mormon is replete with descriptions of these secret murderous combinations as well as prophecies that they will always be with us:

And our spirits must have become like unto him, and we become devils, angels to a devil, to be shut out from the presence of our God, and to remain with the father of lies, in misery, like unto himself; yea, to that being who beguiled out first parents, who transformeth himself nigh unto an angel of light, and stirreth up the children of men unto secret combinations of murder and all manner of secret works of darkness. (2 Nephi 9:9.)

Wherefore, for this cause, that my covenants may be fulfilled which I have made unto the children of men, that I will do unto them while they are in the flesh, I must needs destroy the secret works of darkness, and of murders, and of abominations. (2 Nephi 10:15.)

And there are also secret combinations, even as in times of old, according to the combinations of the devil, for he is the founder of all these things; yea, the founder of murder, and works of darkness; yea, and he leadeth them by the neck with a flaxen cord, until he bindeth them with his strong cords forever. (2 Nephi 26:22.)

In Alma, we find that the Lord commanded some of the prophets not to write any of the secret works, especially of the secret oaths, so that they would not become known by generations to follow, but that they might be warned that they do exist:

And now, I will speak unto you concerning those twenty-four plates, that ye keep them, that the mysteries and the works of darkness, and their secret works, or the secret works of those people who have been destroyed, may be made manifest unto this people; yea, all their murders, and robbings, and their plunderings, and all their wickedness and abominations, may be made manifest unto this people; yea, and that ye preserve these interpreters. . .

I will bring forth out of darkness unto light all their secret works and their abominations; and except they repent I will destroy them from off the face of the earth; and I will bring to light all their secrets and abominations, unto every nation that shall hereafter possess the land.

And now, my son, we see that they did not repent; therefore they have been destroyed, and thus far the word of God has been fulfilled; yea, their secret abominations have been brought out of darkness and made known unto us.

And now, my son, I command you that ye retain all their oaths,, and their covenants, and their agreements in their secret abominations; yea, and all their signs and their wonders ye shall keep from this people, that they know them not, lest peradventure they should fall into darkness also and be destroyed.

For behold, there is a curse upon all this land, that destruction shall come upon all those workers of darkness, according to the power of God, when they are fully ripe; therefore I desire that this people might be destroyed. (Alma 37:21, 25-28.)

In Helaman, the name of Gadianton is introduced and becomes descriptive throughout the Book of Mormon relative to the secret combinations.

But behold, Kishkumen, who had murdered Pahoran, did lay wait to destroy Helaman also; and he was upheld by his band, who had entered into a covenant that no one should know his wickedness.

For there was one Gadianton, who was exceedingly expert in many words, and also in his craft, to carry on the secret work of murder and of robbery; therefore he became the leader of the band of Kishkumen. . . .

And when the servant of Helaman had known all the heart of Kishkumen, and how that it was his object to murder, and also that it was the object of all those who belonged to his band to murder, and to rob, and to gain power, (and this was their secret plan, and their combination) the servant of Helaman said unto Kishkumen: Let us go forth unto the judgment-seat. (Helaman 2:3-4, 8.)

It was true then as it is now that these things were not known by the general populace or by the government:

And it came to pass in the forty and ninth year of the reign of the judges, there was continual peace established in the land, all save it were the secret combinations which Gadianton the robber had established in the more settled parts of the land, which at that time were not known unto those who were at the head of government; therefore they were not destroyed out of the land. (Helaman 3:23.)

In chapter 6, we learn that in spite of the Lord's command to the prophets not to write these things, Satan is capable, and always has been, of revealing his secrets to his followers just as the Lord has revealed His will to the prophets.

And now behold, those murderers and plunderers were a band who had been formed by Kishkumen and Gadianton. And now it had come to pass that there were many, even among the Nephites, of Gadianton's band. But behold, they were more numerous among the more wicked part of the Lamanites. And they were called Gadianton's robbers and murderers.

But behold, Satan did stir up the hearts of the more part of the Nephites, insomuch that they did unite with those bands of robbers, and did enter into their covenants and their oaths, that they would protect and preserve one another in whatsoever difficult circumstances they should be placed, that they should not suffer for their murders, and their plunderings, and their stealings.

And it came to pass that they did have their signs, yea, their secret signs, and their secret words; and this that they might distinguish a brother who had entered into the covenant, that whatsoever wickedness his brother should do he should not be injured by his brother, nor by those who did belong to his band, who had taken this covenant.

And thus they might murder and plunder, and steal, and commit whoredoms and all manner of wickedness, contrary to the laws of their country and also the laws of their God.

And whosoever of those who belonged to their band should reveal unto the world of their wickedness and their abominations, should be tried, not according to the laws of their country, but according to the laws of their wickedness, which had been given by Gadianton and Kishkumen.

Now behold, it is these secret oaths and covenants which Alma commanded his son should not go forth unto the world, lest they should be a means of bringing down the people unto destruction.

Now behold, those secret oaths and covenants did not come forth unto Gadianton from the records which were delivered unto Helaman; but behold, they were put into the heart of Gadianton by that same being who did entice our first parents to partake of the forbidden fruit. . . .

Yea, it is that same being who put it into the heart of Gadianton to still carry on the work of darkness, and of secret murder; and he has brought it forth from the beginning of man even down to this time.

And behold, it is he who is the author of all sin. And behold, he doth carry on his works of darkness and secret murder, and doth hand down their plots, and their oaths, and their covenants, and their plans of awful wickedness, from generation to generation according as he can get hold upon the hearts of the children of men. (Helaman 6:18, 21-26, 29-30.)

In light of this scripture, it is naive for us to think these things would not exist in our own generation. We know this is the last dispensation, the dispensation of the fulness of times. Surely Satan would not "pass" on this most important dispensation.

In Helaman 8:1 we learn that people in high places were members of the Gadianton band and secret combinations:

And now it came to pass that when Nephi had said these words, behold, there were men who were judges, who also belonged to the secret band of Gadianton, and they were angry, and they cried out against him, saying unto the people: Why do ye not seize upon this man and bring him forth, that he may be condemned according to the crime which he has done?

We have allegations to indicate that this is true of people in high places today in both the Church and the government who are leading this dual life. The secret combinations were mentioned all through the Book of Mormon. In Mormon 1:18-19 we read that these Gadianton robbers were still alive and well and functioning:

And these Gadianton robbers, who were among the Lamanites, did infest the land, insomuch that the inhabitants thereof began to hide up their treasures in the earth; and they became slippery, because the Lord had cursed the land, that they could not hold them, nor retain them again.

And it came to pass that there were sorceries, and witchcrafts, and magics; and the power of the evil one was wrought upon all the face of the land, even unto the fulfilling of all the words of Abinadi, and also Samuel the Lamanite.

In Mormon 8:27 there is a prophecy that secret combinations will be among us in our time:

And it shall come in a day when the blood of saints shall cry unto the Lord, because of secret combinations and the works of darkness.

The extent of the evil that mankind will perpetrate on another is told in Moroni 9:10:

And after they had done this thing, they did murder them in a most cruel manner, torturing their bodies even unto death; and after they have done this, they devour their flesh like unto wild beasts, because of the hardness of their hearts; and they do it for a token of bravery.

Many of us have read this all of our lives and click our tongues at how awful it would be to live in such a time. Those victims with whom I have spoken testify to these things going on all around us today. In Ether we are told that they will exist amongst us, the gentiles, and we are also warned that we should do something about it:

And now I, Moroni, do not write the manner of their oaths and combinations, for it hath been made known unto me that they are had among all people, and they are had among the Lamanites.

And they have caused the destruction of this people of whom I am now speaking, and also the destruction of the people of Nephi.

And whatsoever nation shall uphold such secret combinations, to get power and gain, until they shall spread over the nation, behold, they shall be destroyed; for the Lord will not suffer that the blood of his saints, which shall be shed by them, shall always cry unto him from the ground for vengeance upon them and yet he avenge them not.

Wherefore, O ye Gentiles, it is wisdom in God that these things should be shown unto you, that thereby ye may repent of your sins, and suffer not that these murderous combinations shall get above you, which are built up to get power and gain--and the work, yea, even the work of destruction come upon you, yea, even the sword of the justice of the Eternal God shall fall upon you, to your overthrow and destruction if ye shall suffer these things to be.

Wherefore, the Lord commandeth you, when ye shall see these things come among you that ye shall awake to a sense of your awful situation, because of this secret combination which shall be among you; or wo be unto it, because of the blood of them who have been slain; for they cry from the dust for vengeance upon it, and also upon those who built it up. (Ether 8:20-24.)

In summary, we live in the last dispensation of the fulness of times and Satan is here with his secret combinations in all of the ugliness that existed in previous dispensations. The scriptures prophesy to that reality. I also believe that the scriptures cited and many others that could be quoted argue against our being passive about the problem. I don't want to be known as an alarmist or a fanatic on the issue. Now that I have put what I have learned in writing to you, I feel the issue is in the right court. I hope to take a low profile on the subject and get on with the duties which I have been formally assigned. This is not to say I would not be willing to be of service. Over the last eighteen months I have acquired a compassionate love and respect for the victims who are fighting for the safety of their physical lives and, more importantly, their souls.

Caverns and tunnels under Salt Lake

08/01/2004 - by anonymous


"A reference to a system of tunnels and catacombs allegedly existing below the Salt Lake Valley, which were said to exist long before the first settlers moved in. Unusual stories have made the rounds to the effect that early construction workers in downtown SLC broke through into these underground tunnels. Some of these passages were later expanded by early polygamists who entered them to take refuge from government prosecutors. Others who entered certain of these tunnels never returned. Additional "rumors" say that "Lizard People" have been encountered in some of the deeper tunnels, as well as unusual footprints of creatures with three toes. There are also reports of seemingly "bottomless shafts". Also huge passages "large enough to drive a truck through" are said to lead southwest from downtown Salt Lake City to other chambers below the western Rockies, especially below the Cottonwood Canyons.

"It is interesting that the Mayan- Telosians claim to have a large base under Big Cottonwood Canyon, The Mormon Church has a huge underground storage shelter below Little Cottonwood Canyon, and the tunnels in down- town SLC are also said to connect with the basement of the Masonic Temple there. ALL THREE groups possess an initiatory order of "Melchizedek" within their structures... interesting! Also, there have been reports of encounters with NORDICS as well as abductions by REPTILIANS near these canyons. One witness swore that at night she was taken out of her house in Salt Lake City by a blond man in a black "astronaut" uniform, who showed her a "Star Wars" scenario taking place above the Cottonwood Canyons. She saw [cloaked?] disks emerging from Twin Peaks only to fire beams of energy at incoming UFOs. The beams hit what appeared to be the force shields of the incoming craft and in "Star Trek" like fashion the energy crackled around the UFOs, many of which seemed to lose mo! tive power and drift away. Could this area be one of the "Stand-off" zones between the Benevolent Ones and the Reptilian Grays that John Lear, Agent YF and other sources have referred to?"

"There are many accounts of various alien 'bases' throughout Utah occupied by the Nordics, the Grays, secret societies, the large 'EL' humans, possibly the 'Orange', and of course the 'hubrids' -- and possibly even natural-born humans who are being held prisoner in 'reptilian' strongholds. "

Mormon Nuclear Program - Jackson County Bunker

07/12/2004 - by anonymous

The Mormon Bunker

"I am a 25 year old male and currently a member of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints. I have been questioning the faith (of all major religions) more due to your information and one thing has caused me to do so further. A friend of my father said he was in Jackson County Missouri and he wandered deep onto church property. The church owns a large percentage of that county and their properties are extensive due to the future significance in the times of tribulation it is supposed to hold.

My father's friend wandered back into the area way off the beaten path and he encountered a large bunker/building that was partly underground and surrounded by barbed wire. He tried to get closer but a security officer came up and stopped him. When he asked numerous times what the building was he was denied any explanation and was forced to leave."

Mormon nuclear program

In Tape #342 (8/4/78), entitled "Mormon Uranium and the One World Gov't," Brussell relates the report of an attorney Doug Wallace on a conference held by the "Latter Day Saints Freedom Foundation" on "Mormon Church Infiltration of Government Agencies Suspected of Sequestering Uranium Ore Outside the United States." The report relates that the Mormon Church illegally exported tons of uranium from Washington State and Utah to Australia, evidently in the late '50s. Says Brussell, "It is of no small moment that the LDS has infiltrated the CIA and the FBI, and that the special interests of the church have been handled by those church members who had the agencies of gov't to assist them in the conspiracy."

Brussell continues: "The objective of the Mormon conspiracy was to transport the ore beyond the control of the federal gov't. The avowed purpose of the church in its secret political conquest Council of Fifty, was to obtain nuclear capability for future use when it would attempt to obtain world conquest and single world government."

The document further implicates Lyndon Johnson in the shipment of 10 million tons of ore to Australia. It also says, "The nuclear capability of Israel has resulted from this conspiracy, which provided for the highjacking of 200 tons of ore in 1968. The rumor was widespread in the knowledgeable circles of Salt Lake City that the Mormon Church had arranged to assist Israel in bringing off Armageddon."

Coincidentally, there have apparently been "massive explosions" rocking "the Northwest Territories of Australia for the past two years," possibly as a result of nuclear weapons testing. One correspondent writes:

"These explosions have illuminated the sky in a 100-mile radius and have registered significantly on the Richter scale. They have been alleged to be caused by meteorites (quite a trick to hit the same area several times). Yet, no scientific team has checked it out. The reports get very little media play. Oddly enough the U.S. Navy has a large secret base there, even though they are nowhere near the ocean. Another odd coincidence is that Japanese cult responsible for the sarin gas attacks on subways a couple of years ago purchased several thousand acres of land in the same area."

While the explosions and the Mormon nuclear endeavors may be not related, the abhorrent notion that "religious" fanatics will actually create Armageddon for their own purposes and to their own end could also represent the end of us all.

By the way there is lots of good stuff at - Religious Frauds.

The Blood of Christ Flows in the Veins of the Modern Mormon Apostles

06/12/2004 - by cricket and others

This section was inspired by this response to the General Authority Nepotism page here at the Lampoon.

"You have this all wrong. The apostleship is not based on famalial nepotism. It is based on genealogy. The wives of the apostles have little to do with the current apostles only their children.

All the apostles have direct blood lines linking them back to the Smith family or the Young Family. The single purpose for plural marriage was to purify and strengthen this bloodline.

Through the teaching of Scottish Rite Freemasonry both Joseph Smith and Brigham Young learned of a direct lineage linking them back to the Merovinginians which is known to the masons as the Holy Grail or Sangreal, the direct bloodline of Jesus Christ springing from the offsping of Mary Magdeline and Jesus Christ.

The marriage of Jesus was clearly taught by the early apostles such as John Taylor. A black aspostle is extremely unlikely because he would not be within this blood line. This is explained in the doctrine and convenants in reference to having the true lineaage of a priest in Zion." - End of quote.

At the next press conference I'd like to ask Gordon Hinckley this quetion: So President Hinckley, do you have the blood of Jesus Christ flowing in your veins? And do the rest of the Twelve? And does this mean we will never have a apostle of non-caucasian skins color?

by exmo

My father who was TBM (True Believing Mormon) and a patriarch, told me this as well. He said it was the literal belief of the LDS hierarchy, and he agreed with it.

I think this is another reason LDS Inc. is so obsessed with genealogy. They want to keep track of the bloodlines for their apostleships/leadership continuity within the same bloodlines.

by Dan Brown

The Q12, aka the "DaVinci Creeps."

by Deutsche

Geez, I was born in what used to be Austrasia,the old Merovingian empire.

When Joseph Smith became a master mason in record time (probably because he paid cash for the degrees) he simply bought into the legends of the Masons and Rosicrucians which were said to have come down from the Knights Templar.

The fact is, we do not know what the rites of the templars were. And even if such a correlation could be proven it is still only myths and legends which were passed on. Believing in them does NOT MAKE THEM TRUE.

The Merovingian kings, by and large, were stupid. They left the management of their kingdom to their Mayors of the Palace ( chief stewards) who promptly seized power and wrest the kingdom away from them,thus forming the Karolingian line.

The Mormon church,starting with Joseph Smith, has a habit of trying to get themselves spliced into history where they don't belong.

To legitimatize themselves, for example, they claim there was a"falling away" which necessitated a (Mormon) restoration. What a crock.

JS also had himself anointed king and started sending out secret ambassadors to European nations during his last months alive. If nothing else, the man suffered from delusions of grandeur. BUT he died in a prison shoot-out, so much for his royal plans.

Mormons who buy into these legends are ignoramuses,chumps, and gluttons for punishment.

Even if it were possible, why would anyone work to bring back some stupd king to rule over them? That's like trying to bring back Dinosaurs, interesting to contemplate but totally impractical.

Moreover,such a king would in effect be the Anti-Christ when Christ returns,so who are these people REALLY willing to serve????

by Highlander

So, if the modern leaders cannot be said to be "king-men", what exactly are they, then?

by hmmmmmm

So why aren't Steve Young's parents or grandparents in the GA lineup? Were they not "active enough" perhaps, since they're more directly related to BY than many other Morgbots????

by omnitheistic nihilism

I think the one thing they are trying to keep alive is their Y chromosomes. That would explain why they are a Patriarchy. Women are just carriers for the capital Y. You know, if you take the letter Y and turn it upside down, it almost looks like a penis with two testicles.

by PM

This was one of my X wife's tangents in her insanity. She just knew she was in the direct lineage too, researched it for hours on end as if it would really mean anything. YES, I blame the morg in part for her problems!!! Joe Smith started this idea. For Residents Mo pologist spooks, attack your 1st profit over this idea, not me!!! Davinci code now talks about it.

by omnitheistic nihilism

I feel I may have some Holy Grail blood in me after reading about the SANGREAL bloodline, I have had this nagging feeling that some of it runs thru my veins. I'm not going to go crazy searching thru geneology ...... since I'm too lazy. But it was something I've felt since I read about it. I'm not saying that it's big in my blood. Most of my blood is Norwegian (I get Norwegian from both sides) but my Patriarchal lineage is German. I suspect that I may have inherited a little of the Arian Master Race blood.

I get a lot of my looks from Germany. I always had this thing for Mary Magdalene, altho the church supresses a lot of information about her. When I started reading about her in alternative sources (Gnosticism, etc), I felt a very strong connection and a love for Mary. In fact, I have a sort of belief in her, or a belief in the Myth of her, which is also reflected in the Myth of Isis.

Anyway, it's almost like I feel a strong familial connection to Mary Magdalene. And, hell, when I was really stoned this one day I thought I was the reincarnated Jesus. Call me crazy, but I'm not claiming anything. I'm just saying what I feel.

by just browsing

Journal of Discourses Volume 4 page 260

How much soever [sic] of holy horror of this doctrine may excite in persons not impregnated with the blood of Christ, and whose minds are consequently dark and benighted, it may excite still more when they are told that if none of the natural blood of Christ flows in their veins, they are not the chosen or elect of God. Object not, therefore, too strongly against the marriage of Christ, but remember that in the last days, secret and hidden things must come to light, and that your life also (which is the blood) is hid with Christ in God.

by omnitheistic nihilism

I've read about this before, in a more universal sense. George W. Bush is probably related to said apostles, as are the Royal Family of Great Britain. The Mormon church was financially backed by the Rothschilds (I think), the same people who backed the Jehovah's Witnesses. And yes, the temple ceremonies are copies of the Freemasonry Temple Ceremonies, Blood Oaths and all. However, I'm sure the temple ceremonies were amended to fit the at-the-time doctrine.

Is it so unbelievable that organizations like the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints are the infant-state of an Orwellian New World Order? Everytime I see a picture of Jesus, I think "Big Brother is Watching".

by Bob

I still don't fully understand the depth of the relationship between Masonry and Mormonism. I like this kind of stuff, though.

In addition to Cricket's questions, there seems to be one more question in need of being asked...

"Why did God's prophet need to learn he was descended from Christ from a Mason?"


If the Masons knew, why aren't we all Masons and Ex-Masons?

by The Wonderer

That must mean that Steve Benson is... you know. In the name of Steve Benson, amen.

by Jason the Mason

All well and good except that Mr. Smith was never exposed to "Scottish Rite Freemasonry". It wasn't in Illinois or even New York at the time.

by wfreeman1@

I wonder, from the outside looking in at the Mormon Church, if the leaders of this Church aren't maintaining their own little Desposynic bloodline as was popularized by Dan Brown in his novel The DaVinci Code. There are so many things that lead me to believe that the Mormon Church considers itself Desposynic. Of course, the Desposynic lineage has often been matriarchal, not patriarchal, but then so is the bee hive, isn't it?

If it is true that the Mormon leadership considers themselves Desposyni, I must wonder if they are not also aware that the Desposynic bloodline was said (by Laurence Gardner in Genesis of the Grail Kings) to have had its origins in Cain, and that Cain's father was not Adam but Samael or the "Serpent".

The connections are curious.

We believe you have personal knowledge about the affairs between Salt Lake City and International Banking practices between 1985-2001.

04/13/2004 - by Steve Davis

We believe you have personal knowledge about the affairs between Salt Lake City and International Banking practices between 1985-2001. In 1987 Congress passed a law enabling Utah to have corporations operating as a “banking entity”. Attached is a copy of a letter being sent to several research, investigative, news media, and congressional representatives for their ability to research the same actions which we have been addressing directly in Utah for years, including information we sent to Janet Reno when she was the Attorney General.

We appreciate your response and assistance with whatever knowledge you have. Respectfully, A.T.L.A.S. CITIES OF COMMERCE (Non-Profit corporation)

********************************************************************** A.T.L.A.S. CITIES OF COMMERCE, Davis & Associates, 2454 N. Timpview

Drive, Provo, Utah 84604
April 13, 2004

Mr. John Ashcroft, US Attorney General, Washington DC Elected Representatives who represent Americans

Dear Americans who represent Americans,

I am first an American who believes in our election process. This year is very ugly in negative political campaigning because many SECRETS are no longer hidden by those who knew the game-plan of Muslim Terrorists attacking with the United States of America. Last week the White House released an August 6, 2001 memo about terrorists bombing within America. This information was historical (since 1996) and dealt mainly with the 2002 Winter Olympics in Salt Lake City. Congress gave $300 Million for security for this event.

I have been well respected throughout the world because of my 1965 design to improve the transportation of goods and replace 18-wheeler trucks from the Interstate Freeway System, endorsed by President Ronald Reagan at the end of his presidency at a Japan G-7 meeting.

I have publicly accused Gordon Hinckley in stealing my technology for person and political financial gain for years. Trucking creates road damage all over the world and it’s very expensive to repair. I am a mining expert because of the background of my father, Dr. H. Clyde Davis, with him being involved with US Security before I was born in 1950.

I have many former college friends (graduated in 1974) who were recruited by the federal government because of their ability to speak a foreign language (Brigham Young University). For the past thirty years I have monitored their travels and positions as professionals. Many are now retired and realize their own actions and involvement in international banking commerce.

In the Summer, 2001 I was in Washington DC meeting with George Bevre, an international banker, who told me about the hatred the Muslims had against the Mormons because of the money transactions done in nations where the Muslim religion controlled politics and the people. Their Muslim world was being introduced to American commerce. The people liked the ability to experience the purchase of American goods and services. Their key hatred target was Gordon Hinckley because of the loyalty these US Government foreign agents had for him and their desire to assist in the building of Mormon Temples all over the world.

Between 1992-1995 I met many times with Stephen M. Studdert, former assistant to Presidents Gerald Ford, Ronald Reagan and George Bush Sr. in Utah. During this time I informed Studdert that Gordon Hinckley was a very devoted liberal Democrat and how he gathered considerable information about Republican leaders. In 2001 Mr. Studdert quit his federal position (HUD under President Clinton) because I was living in San Diego County, California and working with the four million American Vietnamese in my 35 CITIES OF COMMERCE Project.

Studdert was appointed by Gordon Hinckley to move to Carlsbad, California (5 miles from my residence) and continue his defamation against me because of my 1994 successful lawsuit against Zions First National Bank and Gordon Hinckley. I had obtained some key information about his international banking practices. Gordon Hinckley did key secret mining transactions with President Bill Clinton throughout North, Central and South America and elsewhere.

I exposed one of these in October, 2000 in a Federal criminal case in Florida. Last week I returned from Brazil with additional evidence of international investments by Gordon Hinckley.

In the 1990s I discovered many secret business deals which caused serious disappointment in remaining loyal to the US Constitution by these same government agents because of many ‘side-deals’ created through international expansion by corporate America by three individuals: Presidents Bill Clinton, George Bush Sr and Gordon Hinckley. Secrets and confidential information of Republican leaders were breached and delivered to President Clinton and Hinckley, a banker in Salt Lake City because the International Olympic Committee had awarded Utah the 2002 Winter Olympics (after being bribed) and what this event would do for Hinckley’s image.

Alan Barnes, Hinckley’s son-in-law, admitted this bribery to the FBI a few years ago (Salt Lake Tribune newspaper article).

2004 is the most negative year I have ever seen. I believe it is because there is no more guarantee that “side-deals” for various religious investments are no longer SECRET. I grew up a Mormon, but I also believe many religions have been secretly investing like Gordon Hinckley.

Thanks to the US PATRIOT ACT, this money-trail can be explored and exposed. When this Act was passed in October, 2001, John Ashcroft’s Department of Justice asked me for a resume for a future job application.

This letter is to recommend all Americans, including our elected representatives, to inquire about their own religious leaders (Christian, Jewish, Muslim, Hinduism, Buddhism, etc) and require a full disclosure and an open book policy about the banking practices of the contributions donated. There are too many Humanitarian Projects with “strings and secrets” attached to them. This also deals with state and local municipal funds. GOD BLESS AMERICA. Please get religious financial side-deals out of American Politics.

Sincerely, Steven C. Davis

Cc many parties

The reference to me in Steve Davis' essay seriously misstates the truth. Michael Goldsmith -- Oct. 12, 2004.

The ‘money trail’ of Gordon Hinckley in international fraud

04/06/2004 - by Steve Davis

ATLAS (Ancestral Tribal Leaders of Americas Sovereignty) CITIES OF COMMERCE, Davis & Associates, 2454 N. Timpview Drive, Provo, Utah 84604

April 6, 2004

Mr. John Ashcroft, US Attorney General, Washington DC

President Gordon Hinckley & other Mormon Apostles, 47 E. South Temple Street, Salt Lake City, Utah 84150

Dear Americans who claim to be Humanitarians and Lie about it,

I wish to file evidence exposing a con-artist. He just confessed his actions before the world public about his conduct and proclaimed them to be of God. Thou shalt not bear false witness! I just returned from South America and am able to connect the ‘money trail’ of Gordon Hinckley in international fraud.

In the past 90 days the Mormon Church Investment Division purchased three large ranches in South America worth hundreds of millions of dollars (2- Brazil, 1- Argentina). One of these is a 70,000 acre property near Brasilia. The operation has been turned over to Dr. David F. Babbel PhD, SHIN Q17 Conjunto 17, Casa 14, Logo Norte 71515-140, Brasilia DF. I spent several hours with him on Friday, April 2nd. He has three doctorate degrees (Economics, Latin America, Tropical Agriculture). He was fired by the Wharton School, University of Pennsylvania almost two years ago and lost all his financial security when he moved to Brazil for Gordon Hinckley. Dr. Babbel expressed great interests in working for our company throughout the world in our 35 CITIES OF COMMERCE I designed many years ago in Arizona while Dr. Babbel’s father worked with Ezra Taft Benson in global agriculture in the 1960s. Since August, 2002 I have been working with Orcalino Eneias from Brasilia. In 1985 Mr. Eneias was asked by the President of Brazil to move to Florida and investigate natural resource banking transactions done in the United States of America. He married an American on July 21, 1985 and two years later became an American citizen.

During the era of President Bill Clinton, Attorney General Janet Reno filed false actions against Mr. Eneias as a cover-up using a non-licensed attorney to represent him (without his knowledge). In 1998 Mr. Eneias was very successful in communications with “HUMAN RIGHTS WATCH” ( in exposing INS mistreatment against immigration detainees in US jails. During this time my Utah attorney, Michael Goldsmith was the Director of Federal Prisons, Washington DC, appointed by President Clinton. I have gathered a substantial amount of information involving Gordon Hinckley in this matter. Mr. Goldsmith is a Jew and returned teaching Civil Rico and Litigation classes at the BYU Law School. Michael Goldsmith spoke with Dr. M. Karlynn Hinman PhD about a taped telephone message he received at his federal office from Salt Lake attorneys concerning my “elimination”. Dr. Hinman was a partner at Kirton & McConkie, a law firm which represents Gordon Hinckley in Mormon Church matters. Dr. Hinman resigned from Kirton & McConkie based on a negative comment by former Utah Supreme Judge Dallin H. Oaks about her gender. I hired Dr. Hinman right after this resignation.

For years I have monitored the personal lives of bankers and politicians who use “people” for their personal and financial gain and glory; then with vast and stolen assets claim to do ‘humanitarian’ work for mankind. Gordon Hinckley is the “king” of this life-style. Harold B. Lee designed the Mormon Church Welfare Services in the 1930s. His background was very simple==wrong side of the street is where he grew up and learned to survive through service to others. Last Saturday night President Hinckley claimed to be equal to President Lee as he proclaimed his $643 million humanitarian donations since 1985. This is an absolute lie, based on his own fraudulent banking practices, use of mind control methods, and secret blood oaths. In 1935 Gordon Hinckley was hired by the Mormon Church for public relations and ‘image’ purposes. He was the sixth employee of the Church at the time (his uncle was an apostle and a very liberal and devoted Democrat), while Harold B. Lee was a Stake President, and a conservative Republican, who lived on the west side of Salt Lake City. President Hinckley is liable for THEFT BY DECEPTION practices and now claims all the glory of people who have dreams from God, like President Lee. Gordon Hinckley only claims “hunches” (Time Magazine interview, 1997) as his method of inspiration.

In 1973 I personally met with Harold B. Lee, based on a recommendation by Howard W. Hunter concerning dreams/visions, personal liability to God and banking corruption within Zions First National Bank. On November 19, 1973 Harold B. Lee dissolved a Utah corporation, Corporation of the President of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints (1923 corp) based my meeting with him and a thorough research for a few months. Since 1989 President Hinckley uses automatic signature machines and still uses this 1973 dissolved corporation to buy ranches in South America and elsewhere! I had also met with Ezra Taft Benson during this time and we conversed about my many experiences in Brazil, South America and how my Mission President, Sherman H. Hibbert was an evil man, causing baptisms solely for “numbers” to increase financial contributions from Brazilians and not true conversions to the Gospel and Mormon Church faith. This last week I met with a gentleman who investigated the conduct of Mr. Hibbert in 1970, Dr. David F. Babbel PhD. He is the Mission President in Brasilia, Brazil and a very successful university professor for economic development. He is a key witness against Gordon Hinckley in this matter. His father worked very closely with Ezra Taft Benson for many years. Brother Benson introduced me to Fred Babbel while I was a student at the Brigham Young University. This is when I was told Dave Babbel served a mission in northern Brazil while I was in Sao Paulo, Brazil.

In 1985 I was front-page news all over the world concerning a gold mine I had purchased from my father, Dr. H. Clyde Davis. At the time Dr. Davis was the Director of Natural Resources, Mormon Church since 1966. The property was worth at least $500 million. During this time we also had a signed contract with Merrill Lynch for a gold transaction in Geneva, Switzerland. In 1985 Gordon Hinckley served on the Board of Directors, Zions First National Bank (since 1968) and illegally used our contract to be the agent for Ezra Taft Benson’s secret bank account, CENTRAL DOMINION TRUST, New York Federal Reserve Bank account. The evidence is very well documented in this transaction and already submitted to Mr. Ashcroft and many FBI Agents and global entities. Following this Theft by Deception act, Gordon Hinckley commenced his ‘humanitarian’ activities, as proclaimed by himself on Saturday, April 3, 2004 while I was in South America.

In 1985 I made a trip to Atlanta, Georgia and was baptized a “BAPTIST” with my genealogy blood-line documentation proving direct relation to one of the Baptist Church founders, Rev. John Lathropp. Before I traveled to Georgia I explained my reasons for this activity to Howard W. Hunter. The Baptists do not like the Mormon Church because of the practice of “baptism by immersion”. I have met with excellent Baptist lawyers for years in bringing civil and hopefully criminal charges against Gordon Hinckley. I thought he would repent by now and confess and cause restitution. I have lived on false hopes. After Saturday night, I now want to go directly to John Ashcroft and deliver the evidence I have proving the corrupt practices of Hinckley for many years. I invite any Mormon Church Apostle to join with me, including Gordon Hinckley in truth (John 8:32). President George W. Bush Jr. is a direct relative to Rev. John Lathrop, also.

JOHN LOTHROPP (about 1480) Cherryburton, Yorkshire—LOWTHROP Estate (one of the wealthiest); ROBERT LOTHROPP (about 1513) became wealthier, richest estate in the Country; THOMAS LOTHROPP (about 1536); REV. JOHN LATHROP (Etton, Yhorkshire 1584-1653 Barnstable, Boston, Mass.) a 1602 Scholarship at Oxford University by the Bishop of London @ Christ Church College, 1603 transferred to Cambridge, Graduated from Queens College, Cambridge (1605, BA). He was ordained a deacon (12/10/1607) by Bishop of Lincoln, became a minister for the Church of England @ Bennington, Hertfordshire. He then graduated from Cambridge with his MA (1609). In 1623 he renounced the Church of England and joins the Independent Church (Henry Jacob). In 1624 he takes over the Mother Church of the Independents (5 Baptist + Puritan). He and his congregation were put in jail in 1630. They all escaped and arrived at Boston, MASS. in September, 1632.



HANNAH HOUGH (Married Wm. Pratt, October 8, 1700)


OBADIAH PRATT (1742-1797)

JARED PRATT (1769-1839)

PARLEY P. PRATT (1807-1857) A Mormon Church convert in 1830, murdered in Ark.


SARAH GARDNER (1869-1934)

WOODRUFF RUST (1895-1960)


STEVEN C. DAVIS (1950- )

Respectfully submitted, Steven C. Davis

cc many parties

Comments Section

Wow. "Welcome to the internet, mate?" Is this ow you cite your sources? Dude. You can learn how to properly make and support claims in English 101. Choose any university. Oh, and your grammar could use some work,too. - 11/25/2014 - anon


Steven C. Davis was diagnosed bipolar and is seriously delusional. He is truly evil and insane. - 08/21/2013 - Justin


Steve Davis is indeed certifiable he is a nutcase- sinister and crazy. - 12/22/2012 - Prince Abu


I met Steve and Karen Davis in Mapleton a couple of years ago. We had Steve come and speak to a little group of us a couple of times. Very fascinating story teller. He has a gift for keeping an audience captive. However, I tend to wonder how much of it I can believe. It's one thing to say something interesting. It's another thing for it to actually be true. - 11/20/2012 - Sterling Allan


I can tell you as a formal temple attendee and scholarshipped in sociology and political science: The Mormon church is indeed a masonic corporation. It is a masonic cult all about social control. Its ties to the CIA and the FBI are allowing them to commit zionist crimes and blame it on their competitors for their oil/gold/banking monopoly for literal world domination. And if there is indeed a satan, they are satanic. They take instructions from Lucifer in their temples and operate in the name of christ. The masons are a secret society formed by the Jesuits of the Vatican to control the protestant movement. Basically, organized criminal terrorists hiding behind good people who believe their lies. This goes all the way up to Nazi Hospitallers. Man made prophecy. I do seek the truth, and I do believe in Christ after being lead astray by a Cohen (fake jew prophet- as in Rev. 2:9 and 3:9) These are literal gangsters who hijacked the jewish identity who will get amnesty for the right price in Nazi created Israel. It is problem-reaction-solution politics. Their drug money allows media monopolies to keep us asleep. Wake up Americans. We are in deep trouble. - 11/10/2010 - contactkim


fuck the church!! mormons are the most jugdemental people around!!i have spent the last 6 years of my life researching the church and found out some crazy shit! of course the mormon followers wont believe that stuff cuz they are brought up not to believe anything outside of the church, you guys are just way to close-minded about things,no? cant even think for yourself!! - 04/06/2010 - no one


How sad that you spend so much of your time writing this undocumented (I mean real documentation) about a church whose members simply try to live according to the dictates of their spirit as Christ has said to us all, "Come, follow me"...and as they try to do this you try to tear them apart.

In my SERIOUS (vs your apparently trivial) research into many belief systems of the world over a ten year period, I found the doctrines and the leaders of the Church of jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints to be true Christians. Why do you have a problem with this and why do you feel the need to spend your days telling these lies. A strong touch of Satanism yourself, perhaps? - 02/12/2010 - waterfall


You want a conspiracy theory?

Just two web sites - you be the judge. - 04/15/2009 - - Enoch's Author


You anti mormons are all NUTSO...I do sincerely feel sorry for you. Especially that poor kook steve davis.. where did you dig him up from? It's like a psych ward in hereLOL - 04/10/2009 - kittywaymo


This site is ridiculously funny. I enjoy reading about angry people, who know nothing truly of the LDS church, try to pick out little flaws all throughout. Just chill and investigate the church like a normal person, and come to your conclucsion, and then share when necessary. Don't play the "world domination" crap. - 12/25/2008 - Non-Believer


I was also sucked into this church . These people seem to seek out the poor of spirit and begin the brainwashing tactics of all religious fields. Like I said I was sucked in and constantly reminded that if any writing was not aproved by church people then it was of satan...??

Slowly I began to wonder of all religion.

Then along came the internet with all its capabilities and essay,s of many biblical scolars . Seems to have changed the playing feild. Was there even a god or maker as we are told.?

Methinks not.

I do not beleive a creater would cause the misery and eath that has takenplace upon this world. Nor do I beleive in a Christ who seems to have been naught but a common rebel striving to free Isreal from the control of the Roman Empire { sound a bit like Iraq and the freedom fighters there who are brabded as terrible criminals only because they want the American out. Christ was just a oerson or the mythological counterpart of a made up hero.

Religion and all its counterparts seem to be the worlds biggest SCAM and Mormonism takes top rung. - 12/14/2008 - admodeus


Dumb ass, this is still a legitement corporation owned by the mormon church. - 07/10/2008 - The "money trail" of Gordon Hinckley in international fraud


Mormons... They think the world was created for THEM, and that God is so wonderful and powerful that he made Joe Smith, Jr. his prophet in "these latter days." It's amuzing how God only gets his "Truth" out to .05% of the world's population! At least the Mo's are good for one thing (they do have some hot little nice-assed chicks running about in Provo)... You'll always be entertained by their illusions! - 04/08/2008 - NonMember

your all crazy - 10/08/2007 - anon


I must thank you for keeping me entertained during my boring work day. This was the best FICTION I have read in years. I hope you don't seriously believe this stuff. - 09/22/2007 - huh_wa_was_dat


Be wary of anything Steve Davis says. He tells lies constantly and is crazy enough to believe it. Kind of like a Brian Mitchell/Wanda Barzee ranter and raver. As loony and sinister as they come. - 07/10/2007 - Blueskies

I can't see that the Mormon Nuke story is true. Australia has huge domestic deposits of uranium. It's ludicrous to suggest any has been imported.

The explosions were described as balls of plasma moving from Antarctica into the Australian deserts.

The Mormons don't seems to be very interested in world affairs relating to Armageddon anyway. - 06/24/2007 - Michael


I agree. I am related to two people mentioned in the above. This is full of lies. - 09/17/2006 - Melodie


This is a lie. There are several falsehoods in this story. I would hope you will check your facts before making such statements. You can be held libel for slander. - 07/25/2004 - Rodney - from


In response to Rodney's comment: Welcome to the American Internet, mate. - 12/28/07 - anon


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